From: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org (LuckyTown Digest) To: luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Subject: LuckyTown Digest V9 #21 Reply-To: luckytown@luckytown.org Sender: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Errors-To: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Precedence: bulk LuckyTown Digest Friday, June 21 2002 Volume 09 : Number 021 NOTE: Sale/trade posts should be emailed to luckytown-ads, *NOT* to luckytown. That includes tix wanted/tix grovels, post them to luckytown-ads, please. Contents: Philly Radio this morning ["Jeff Blum" ] Not A Second Time [jsavage@concentric.net (Johnny Saulovich)] The Rising - links to Amazon and B+N [wcbob@juno.com] A Beatles Influence?? ["Rich Kortz" ] Songs on the Tour ["Dave DiCarlo" ] Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #20 [RoseyJ25@aol.com] Southside at the Shore August 15 ["Gregg Wiggins" ] re the Sixties ["Lisa Iannucci" ] The Rising on Bearshare/Gnutella/etc. ["John Fix 3rd" ] RE: "Bruce" on Kroger Muzak / Sad Eyes [Kari.Laukkanen@sok.fi] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:05:17 +0000 From: "Jeff Blum" Subject: Philly Radio this morning On WXPN in Philadelphia 88.5 this morning, the DJ reported that they have heard the song "The Rising" and will be playing it next week. Her only comment was "you're going to love it." Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:34:58 -0700 From: jsavage@concentric.net (Johnny Saulovich) Subject: Not A Second Time At 12:18 AM 6/19/02, LuckyTown Digest wrote: > > Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #19 [DuoStudio@aol.com] > Beatles?! [Chris Ryan ] To Chris and Arlen ... if you're going to argue an opinion, it's much more effective when you have a grasp of the subject matter. Or, as old hippie Bob Dylan put it, "Don't criticize what you can't understand." What Van Zandt likely implies when he states "you'll hear traces of the Beatles' influence in the music" is that the new CD will present a unified and dynamic band emphasizing pop melody and, perhaps, significant harmonic vocal support. It also reflects an ambition that may be driving the upcoming album. Chris: Frankly, Uncle Tupelo and RATM didn't exactly explode the limits of popular music, when compared to the Fab Four. Perhaps Nirvana would've made a better example. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band was a *great album* in terms of cultural impact and influence, not necessarily the music. Trust me, we won't be hearing a "a new 'Sgt. Pepper.'" Arlen: Comparing 1975's Born To Run to 1967's Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band is a ridiculous "apples and oranges" argument. They pull from different influences, eras, production values and songwriting styles. "My Sweet Lord" is a 1970 George Harrison *solo* hit and "Good Day Sunshine" is a track from 1966's *Revolver*. Opps! The Beatles "'67 acendancy (sic) to pop-godhood" would be better placed in April, 1964, when they charted the top five (!) songs in Billboard's Pop Top 10 weekly charts. Your dislike of "the quasi-effeminate sense I felt came from those Beatles-influenced high harmonies" and "drugged-out, effeminate hippies wearing scarves" betrays a bias that goes beyond musical merits. And it doesn't quite jibe. Does this mean you eschew the falsetto work Bruce issued in recent years, like "Sad Eyes"? And this must mean you find Steven's sartorial splendor repulsive, yes? It's been written the Beatles' singing "made those records what they were. John and Paul's vocals ... communicated urgency first and foremost. Regardless of lyrics, the singers ... blew away all that stood before them ... today, one hears a lovely, naked emotion in those early vocals, a refusal to kid around, cut the corners of feeling, and a will to say it all." I hope Bruce's new record does as much. Johnny Albany, CA ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:03:31 -0700 From: wcbob@juno.com Subject: The Rising - links to Amazon and B+N Hello. To make it easier for anyone who's interested, I have added direct links to Amazon and B+N for pre-ordering "The Rising". They ae at my website dedicated to Bruce's next CD. I will also add reviews, tour info, and more "Rising" information as it becomes available. The address, which includes a track listing is: http://wcbob.netfirms.com/rising Bob [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:03:55 -0400 From: "Rich Kortz" Subject: A Beatles Influence?? A Beatles Influence?? I hope this doesn't mean Max is going to start singing, too. Rich Kortz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:43:02 -0400 From: "Dave DiCarlo" Subject: Songs on the Tour I am not positive that we will hear Thunder Road and BTR. Remember, he didn't play TR on the Tunnel of Love tour and BTR was acoustic. A lot of people complained that TR and BTR was a little stale -lack of emotion on the last tour. I also wouldn't mind having Light of Day left off. It would be nice to hear Rosalita - this hasn't been regularly been played since the Tunnel Tour. I bet we will hear about 80% of the new album each night - which is great. That is why they are touring - to promote the new album. Since they just got off of a "greatest hits" tour I am hoping to hear songs that weren't played or were not regularly played last time around. On another issue I am curious to see what the ticket prices are going to be. On the '92 tour tickets were around $30. Then 7 years later the price more than doubled. I don't understand how any artist can justify raising their prices by more than 50% in 7 years or so. Especially when they are selling out 20,000 seat arenas on a nightly basis. Concert ticket prices have gone through the roof. U2 is charging $125+, Stones and McCartney are even worse. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 00:42:34 EDT From: RoseyJ25@aol.com Subject: Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #20 Dear Tom Hart (Webster University professor), I just wanted to say thank you on behalf of your students for giving them the opportunity to take a freshman seminar about Bruce Springsteen! God, if I had only been that lucky...my freshman seminar was about coal mining. Yeah, just imagine how wonderfully interesting that was. Anyway, I just wanted to say that there are other college students out there who would love and appreciate a class about Bruce! Feel free to come to good old Lafayette College and teach your class so that I can take it! summer's here and the time is right for racing in the street. - --Jen [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 15:53:23 +0000 From: "Gregg Wiggins" Subject: Southside at the Shore August 15 A divey, trashy bar a couple of hundred yards from the ocean, "cold beer at a reasonable price," and Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes playing on a stage you can get right next to if you'd like. Sounds like a good way to spend an evening to me. It's the Delaware Shore, not the Jersey Shore, but they're coming to the Bottle & Cork in Dewey Beach, DE August 15th. Tickets are $15 in advance or $17 at the door. Call 302-227-3888 to purchase or for more information. Gregg Wiggins "Who actually has, although rarely admitted, relatives in Darlington County, SC" _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 14:52:38 +0200 From: "Dennis Vroegop" Subject: RE: Songs that should be played on the next tour > From: JohnnyBilo@aol.com > Subject: Songs that should be played on the next tour >Anticipating 10 to 12 from The Rising every night, these should also be played: > Independence Day (a better song about what it means to be American) what it means to be American? It's about the relationship with his father, right? >Darlington County (it's a celebration, and its obvious; also, it fits with >Rosalita) Great song, I agree... but the reference to owning the WTC towers isn't that appropriate anymore, is it? >David in NYC Greetings From Amsterdam, The Netherlands Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:09:32 -0700 From: "Paul McElligott" Subject: Re: Complaints & The Beatles' influence on 'The Rising'. It was kind of funny that, right after Robert Curtis' hilarious (and very true) rant about about the chronic complainers here on LTD, here comes a perfect example of what he's talking about. To: Chris Ryan Relax! I'm reasonably certain that Bruce owns a CD player and has listened to some of the music released in the last ten years. Also, remember this: "influenced by" does not equal "slavishly copying." Steven did not say that Bruce would be covering "Hey Jude" on the next album, did he? So if you like Rage Against the Machine more than the Beatles, by all means listen to them. I wouldn't be surprised to hear Bruce likes RATM too (although probably not over the Beatles). Hey, here's a novel suggestion that I'm sure no one has heard before: Why don't you wait until *after* you've actually heard music off the new album before deciding whether or not you like it? Radical idea, huh? Paul McElligott _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 19:47:31 +0100 From: johnes@hotpop.com Subject: Bruce and the Beatles Arlen Schumer, Bruce and the Beatles - I always thought I heard a reference to the Beatles 'No Reply' in the sax solo of 'Loose Ends', and assumed the reference was deliberate since the songs cover a similar theme... Geraint Geraint & Jill Johnes http://www.johnes.co.uk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 01:43:19 -0400 From: Bill Daverne Subject: Pepper-oni? <> Maybe new art needs new words to describe it. Bill Daverne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 13:43:14 -0400 From: "Lisa Iannucci" Subject: re the Sixties So Steve Van Zandt says, "This is the first time you'll hear traces of the Beatles' influence in the music." Well, yawn. Doesn't make me look forward to the new CD with great anticipation. Have these guys listened to anything that came out after the 60s? There's been so much vital stuff in the last ten years, from Uncle Tupelo to Rage Against the Machine, just to pick two disparate things at random. As great as it was, I don't really want to hear a new "Sgt. Pepper." Welp, the two bands cited as being music made after the sixties are so heavily influenced by that music that this comment puzzles me. For example, where would Rage be without the Who? Everything after about 1972 is pretty much recycling. Not that there's anything wrong with that. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2002 14:37:34 -0400 From: "John Fix 3rd" Subject: The Rising on Bearshare/Gnutella/etc. FYI, a scan of Gnutella and other peer-to-peer networks shows a lot of folks sharing MP3 files from The Rising. However, the MP3's are not Springsteen, but some other artist. It's been done before (by me actually... www.hand-2-mouth.com) but not as extensively with one artist. Whoever started this round of mislabeled files made an MP3 file for each song title on the upcoming album. John www.cornells.com/bruce.htm ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 09:56:56 -0700 From: "Jon Greer" Subject: Tunnel of Love Can't wait for The Rising. Squat down next to my voluminous Bruce collection to find something to listen to. Bootlegs? No. BITUSA? No. Live 75-85. No. BTR? No. Tunnel of Love? Why not. Wow. Haven't listened to the Tunnel of Love CD for years. What a great record. Forgotten classics like Two Faces. Spare Parts. Cautious Man (could have been on TGoTJ). One Step Up. 41 days to go to The Rising. Can't wait. Jon Greer [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 00:05:06 +0300 From: Kari.Laukkanen@sok.fi Subject: RE: "Bruce" on Kroger Muzak / Sad Eyes MJQuarry@aol.com wrote: "I was cruising through my nearby Kroger Grocery Store the other day and thought I recognized the beginning chords of a song being played over the speakers. It seemed a bit faster tempo than normal, but, nonetheless, sounded very familiar. And, upon starting the 1st verse, I heard the familiar lyrics of "Sad Eyes." It was not Bruce, however, but a female voice. I did not recognize her voice - - whoever she was (some studio or other musician/singer), she did do the song apt justice." The perfomer was probably Enrique Iglesias the son of Julio Iglesias. Anyone else covered that song? ------------------------------ End of LuckyTown Digest V9 #21 ****************************** ********************************************************************* ** LuckyTown WWW URL ** The LuckyTown FAQ, back issues, web-based subscription/unsubscription, and many other things can be found on the LuckyTown WWW Page: http://www.luckytown.org ** LuckyTown mailing list addresses ** You can send email to go into the next LuckyTown Digest to: luckytown@luckytown.org You can send email to go into the next LuckyTown-Ads Digest to: luckytown-ads@luckytown.org Any questions for the list admin should be emailed to: owner-luckytown@luckytown.org To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@luckytown.org with message body: unsubscribe luckytown-digest To get further information on how to subscribe/unsubscribe/change your subscription address, as well as the other available commands, send email to majordomo@luckytown.org with message body: help ********************************************************************* The contents of this digest are not necessarily approved by the list admin.