From: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org (LuckyTown Digest) To: luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Subject: LuckyTown Digest V9 #38 Reply-To: luckytown@luckytown.org Sender: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Errors-To: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Precedence: bulk LuckyTown Digest Tuesday, July 16 2002 Volume 09 : Number 038 NOTE: Sale/trade posts should be emailed to luckytown-ads, *NOT* to luckytown. That includes tix wanted/tix grovels, post them to luckytown-ads, please. Contents: Bruce Interview ["Zur, John Francis, JR (John)" ] NYT article [Winston@luckytown.org, Amy.Winston@state.me.us]] Robert Hilburn LA Times article ["Kevin Kinder" ] USA Today article ["Kevin Kinder" ] Chords... [Josef.Schrefel@bene.com] Saturday's ticket sales [salukidave@hotmail.com]] Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 [DuoStudio@aol.com] Rising to Lucky Time [mark rifkin ] GA [aleib1@yahoo.com]] Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 [Eeeestreetband@aol.com] Airplay 'The Rising' in the Netherlands [wilbert.dishoeck@nl.abb.com] C 23 Reunion [ALateJuliet@aol.com] first leg tour thoughts ["Shaun Stuart" ] Gen'l Admission [Jennifer Brindle ] GA on the floor! [Roy van Rees ] LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 [KVOU812@aol.com] RE: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 ["Steve Schechter" ] "North American" Tour. What about CANADA? [Corson@luckytown.org, christi] North American tour? Yeah right! [krimar@shaw.ca]] GA floor has been the main rule in Europe for decades and it works [Gabor] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:45:05 -0400 From: "Zur, John Francis, JR (John)" Subject: Bruce Interview You have to listen to the multimedia feature on Springsteen on the NY Times web site. He was interviewed in his home and you get to hear him explain a lot about the new cd, his connection with the audience, etc - much more than anything they put in print. Go to this page (if you are not registered, register) & look on right hand side of page for the multimedia box showing springsteen and the text "Workaday Elegies" http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/14/arts/music/14PARE.html If you don't have much time, click on the "greatest hits" and "playing in bars" slides 1st - Bruce really explains how he's connected with audiences so well over the years - it's amazing to realize how much of what he does is so thought out and "thoughtful"... John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:50:04 -0500 From: Winston@luckytown.org, Amy.Winston@state.me.us] Subject: NYT article >From today's NYT (link below; also an article from 7/14): Springsteen Protects His New CD's Online in an Old-Fashioned Way July 15, 2002 By CHRIS NELSON Bruce Springsteen has thwarted prerelease of his music on the Internet not through digital protection or online policing, but with an old-fashioned lock-and-key approach. 7/14 article: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/14/arts/music/14PARE.html 7/15 article: http://www.nytimes.com/2002/07/15/technology/15SPRI.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:49:13 -0500 From: "Kevin Kinder" Subject: Robert Hilburn LA Times article http://www.calendarlive.com/top/1,1419,L-LATimes-Search-X!ArticleDetail-65857,00.html - ----- Kevin Kinder kinder@luckytown.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 23:51:13 -0500 From: "Kevin Kinder" Subject: USA Today article http://www.usatoday.com/life/dcovmon.htm - ----- Kevin Kinder kinder@luckytown.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:34:40 +0200 From: Josef.Schrefel@bene.com Subject: Chords... ...to The Rising and Lonesome Day can be found now at http://members.aon.at/paddington/springsteen/ Still not sure about all chords so let me know if you find any mistakes. Josef ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:39:39 -0500 From: salukidave@hotmail.com] Subject: Saturday's ticket sales What's going on with tickets sales? Even by Ticketmaster's poor standards, Saturday's sales were an erratic mess judging by my experience with Auburn Hills and Cleveland, along with what I've heard from friends and read from various fan reports on the Internet. It's one thing to find general admission floor tickets gone three minutes into the Auburn Hills and Cleveland sales, it's another to not be offered anything in the lower levels. Someone told me the best available that she was offered 10 seconds into the Auburn Hills sale was section 229. There's been many more reports than normal of such bad seats being offered seconds into the sale. What happened to all the good tickets? It seems fewer than usual were available Saturday, at least to normal fans. Also, the general admission floor policy couldn't be better for scalpers. The two-ticket limit and ID policy of the first 17 rows last tour put up an effective road block for scalpers and the result was more die-hard fans got to see the show up close at face value than your typical rock concert. This time, scalpers not only have many more sellable tickets in play for them to obtain and scalp, but their control of so many Ticketmaster outlets and venue box offices, not to mention their use of the latest speed-calling phone technology, means they will gobble up lots of the desired general admission tickets. Why isn't ID being required at the door to make it much harder to scalp general admission tickets? Rave on, Dave Miller ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:19:59 EDT From: DuoStudio@aol.com Subject: Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 My belated thoughts on having attended last Monday night's listening party @ the Sony building in New York City: Like others on the Digest who have voiced similar reactions, it's pretty tough to form a coherent opinion on the totality of the material based on such a partial, first listening; only a batch of fleeting, scattershot, random impressions registered, that, upon further pondering, tangentially lead to deeper discussions--so forgive me if I record those here now in similar fashion (and I'm, again, leaving the discussion of the lyrical message to others who are doing an excellent job of it; I'm just reacting to the music for now). Overall, I'd have to say that all of the songs I heard (8 out of 15: Title cut, Lonesome Day, Into the Fire, Nothing Man, Worlds Apart, The Fuse, Mary's Place, You're Missing) are primed more for their eventual live performance; as studio cuts, with the exception of "Worlds Apart" (more on this cut later), none of the songs really cut loose with the passion and power we've come to expect from Bruce, musically or vocally; I kept waiting for that one vocal from Bruce that would blow me away, and it never came. As I've said before in my first-impression reviews of thte title cut and "Lonesome Day," possibly more than any other Bruce album, these songs were meant to be performed in front of a live audience for their maximum impact (which fits the nature of the lyrical message anyway). Then all of the things I'm missing in these studio cuts will emerge, I'm confident of that. "Worlds Apart," though, was easily the standout cut, and I've read likewise impressions from others on the LTD to back me up. It's like "Souls of the Departed" (the political/lyric message) meets "Seeds" (the bluesy, raw energy) with a dash of "57 Channels" (the sonic experimentation) on top! It's Bruce's/O'Brien's "world music" hat in the ring (with a nod to Sting?), and it works on all levels, with an intensity I found missing in the more tentative other cuts. By the way, my allusions to "Human Touch/Lucky Town" are apt, because another general impression i had of this music was as that it reminded me of that material--but recorded with the E Street Band this time! And in the same way I compared the musical predictability of "Human Touch," the single, as being the "wrong" first single to be released from that batch of songs--instead of, say, "Soul Driver"--so too would "Worlds Apart" have been a better choice for initial release than the title cut; I understand the more obvious release of title cuts as first singles, but "Worlds" simply would wake people up to Bruce on a level that we haven't seen since "Streets of Philadelphia." I felt a bittersweet wincing/cringing during "Mary's Place," because, while I love Bruce's "classic" sound (and I'm sure I speak for many on the Digest), it was just a way too obvious, heavy-handed throwback to an old Bruce party tune (in fact, way too derivative of "We're havin' a Party," as well as the familiar litany of Bruce's own material). Again, it'll be better live, but i just wish a song like this had had, I don't know, more of an updated version of Bruce's trademark sound than a rehashed one (I remember when "Darkness" was first released, I thought that "Promised Land" carried some of Bruce's by-then familiar sound--basically Roy's paino arpeggios--while updating it to the overall sound of the entire album; "Mary's Place" I don't think does that). By the way, it was the only cut where I really heard Roy and Clarence, needless to say; they were barely heard on the other 7 cuts! While it was great to hear this music coming out of a nice sound system (in a small movie screening room), I have to say that i did not care for seeing the lyrics projected at the same time; something about it annoyed me. I mean, when I get a new album, i don't necessarily read the lyrics the first time I'm hearing the music, do you? I try to take in the total experience. Sony should have projected a nice montage of photos instead--I mean, c'mon, they already have this 40-page book of material that's being packaged with The Rising, right? Instead, i feel like we were being force-fed the lyrics instead of just being left alone to glean the entire musical message. After leaving the listening session with my friends, we discussed the material somewhat critically, and then went our separate ways home. On the train back home, i picked up the new Rollingstone, and while i was perusing it, i had an epiphany of sorts about Bruce, his music, and especially his place in the music world. What dawned on me was that, as I leafed through a magazine full of sex and drugs but no rock and roll, with the exception of a handful of acts/artists/groups (the usual suspects: Dylan, neil young, U2), there is basically no one out there doing "real" rock and roll anymore, and certainly no one of a mature stature (thus my omission of the younger groups like The Strokes and White Stripes) who could do a convincing album full of songs reflecting on 9/11 and not be criticized for opportunism or pandering. While we on the Digest dissect, praise, and criticize Bruce's work because we're fans and students and admirers of the man, we must never lose sight of the fact that we hold him to such a high standard because, as far as I'm concerned, he is alone on the top of a relatively deserted mountain called rock and roll music. He's been there for 30 years, outlived and outlasted countless artists, bands and musical trends; may he last for at least 30 more. He is America's Walt Whitman, Woody Guthrie, Aaron Copland, you-name-the-American-legend rolled into one. He is the greatest. --Arlen Schumer ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 13:42:17 -0400 From: mark rifkin Subject: Rising to Lucky Time About "The Rising" single: I love the song, but I wish Bruce wouldn't do his own background vocals. The song has such a great groove, a great live feel, but when Bruce sings "Dream of Life" over his lead vocals, it loses something, although it's still a remarkable song. As far as tickets go, I can't believe my luck. I ended up with three singles for the Garden and one single for Jersey. Anybody out there want to swap a lousy Garden seat (section 427, Row B) for any kind of Jersey seat? - --mdr ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:47:34 -0500 From: aleib1@yahoo.com] Subject: GA This whole GA thing does not seem to match Bruce's fans. For instance, I am 37, almost all of the Bruce fans, family members and friends, I hang with are older. Over the last few years we have been lucky enough to see many shows, rehearsal and holiday, at Convention Hall. I sat in seats and had GA. I was more involved in the show when I was more than 1/4 of the way up and less involved the further back I got. But unless I was in the first few rows, the standing, waiting, pushing, etc. was not worth it, especially since I am short and could not see much. By the time the show started this past holiday season, my family and friends were all complaining. It made for a much less enjoyable show. In attempting to get tickets this time around, we all agreed that we would take any seat over general admission. We all have lives which prevent us from standing on line all day in the attempt to get close to the stage. Despite what Bruce and his management seem to believe, my life does not revolve around his music and shows and I do not want to sleep overnight outside MSG in order to get a good place on the floor. This seems to be a miscalculation of the age and endurance of his fan base. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 01:06:18 EDT From: Eeeestreetband@aol.com Subject: Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 In a message dated 7/13/02 11:11:48 PM Central Daylight Time, owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org writes: > Now, regarding the tour: the initial announcement made me very upset. Not > about > the GA floor, but about the decision of one-night, one-city across the > country. > For fans in smaller markets that have been skipped in past tours, it's a > blessing, but for those of us in major metro areas, it's a disaster funny...I thought the one show per city was a great idea...it allows room for shows in other cities...its about time you will get your turn for mulitple shows in 2003, another thing im glad they did, was anouncing all the dates all at once...if you look at the list of shows it is possible more than once to him him night after night without traveling to far... [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:11:50 -0500 From: wilbert.dishoeck@nl.abb.com Subject: Airplay 'The Rising' in the Netherlands Hi all, I just wanted to let you all know that the dutch radiostation 'Radio 3FM' is playing The Rising everyday since the first of july. They even made it the Megahit this week wich means that they'll play it at least every three hours. Wonder if it will help The Rising into the top of the charts. Greetings from the Netherlands, Wilbert van Dishoeck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 19:50:43 EDT From: ALateJuliet@aol.com Subject: C 23 Reunion Haven't seen anything posted yet but then again I'm behind on reading. I think it's time for a C23 reunion in the Meadowlands Parking Lot. I've got the same car, but no more red hair - I'm back to my natural blonde and it's longer. Hope to see some familiar faces on August 7 in C23! Linda [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 09:48:23 -0700 From: "Shaun Stuart" Subject: first leg tour thoughts One of the reasons people see Bruce multiple times each tour is because he usually mixes up the setlist. But there always seems to be a "standard" show, which he usually plays the first night in a city, and then various other songs he moves in and out of the show the following nights. With this initial leg of the tour being 36 shows in 36 cities, I'm wondering if we'll see something we've never seen from Bruce before: the exact same setlist played 36 times in a row.. Shaun ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:52:04 -0700 From: Jennifer Brindle Subject: Gen'l Admission I made a conscious, and painful, decision this past Saturday. I decided not to purchase tickets to see Bruce in San Jose. Although the time was great, the price was stiff considering the economic times, but still affordable (husband still has a job--today at least), I just couldn't see supporting general admission policies, even if it IS Bruce. I have never, ever purchased tickets to a show with gen'l admission and even for Bruce, I'm not about to start now. It's an integrity thing. I am opposed to such "festival seating" and believe it is inherently dangerous. Not to mention completely unfair to those of us who have to work for a living and can't camp out at the arena for days and days to be one of the first to rush in and get crushed. Bruce, if you ever see this... I hope you put on a good show in San Jose, but I won't be there. Change your general admission and I'll change my mind. Jennifer ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 13:21:41 +0200 From: Roy van Rees Subject: GA on the floor! Hi everybody, Hope you all got your tickets!! Living in the Netherlands we still have to wait a few months! Living in the Netherlands it's also hard for me to understand all the fuzz about GA-tickets for the floor-section of the venues. Over here we allways have that, at least for more than 90 % of all the gigs. I think it's a great thing!! And don't start moaning it's for the "young", I'm turning 50 next year and still I'll try to get floor-tickets for this tour! I've been to several European shows of the Reunion-tour and all of them I was on the floor experiencing from real close the great energy of Bruce and the Band! The two concerts in my own country I've attended with my then 14 year old son and we had great spots, first "row" just in front of Clarence! I must say in the Netherlands we have a special thing for these big concerts. You must be very early at the venue, let's say about 8 to 10 hours before the venue opens. Then, when the venue opens, they let the first 600 or so with floor tickets in a special area in front of the stage! This area is separated from the rest of the floor with a fence! You'll get wrist-bands to walk in and out of the area. No pushing and pulling, no rushing because the area is big enough, you'll have plenty of space! It's a great thing, when you're willing to make the effort to spent these 8 to 10 hours waiting in the open air (the second show it rained for hours in the afternoon)! Just my two cents on GA on the floor! I wish all my American friends great shows and lots of fun on the floor-section! greetings from the Netherlands, Roy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:06:25 -0500 From: KVOU812@aol.com Subject: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 >I know some of you will say Bruce doesnt owe me >anything, & he should do whatever the hell he wants to >do & blah blah blah, but i would like to hear from you >if every single tour skips your city, hell skips your >whole state & the 2 states next to it!! Yeah, I know what you mean. I live in the Memphis, TN area and Memphis was left off the list this time even though it was pretty much a sell out on the last tour, and he always played here before. Nashville was left out too, so Tennessee, Arkansas, and Oklahoma all got screwed. The close he is gonna come to me is either Birmingham or St. Louis both about 2-300 miles away, and I don't mind going to either, but its so damn hard to arrange for time off and an overnight sitter for the kids when a lot of these dates are during the week. At first I thought maybe the arena here was booked up, but I checked with them and they have like 3 events scheduled between now and the end of Sept, so there are no excuses as far as I'm concerned. I really wish they would release a list of what major cities will get the multiple dates next summer so I'd know if need to bust my ass to get to a show in the next month or two, or wait until the next round. On a brighter note, I live about 20min from the casinos in Tunica, MS...and I went down there this past Sat night to see the Big Man! I didn't know really what to expect, but I have to say I was really impressed! Clarence not only played the sax, but he sang and danced and was really pretty good. His 11 piece band was pretty damn good as well....Temple of Soul he called them....included a guitar player that looked kinda like a blond Bruce, two drummers, a horn section, keyboard and piano player, and this woman that can dance like you wouldn't believe and might be the best violin player I ever heard. Anyway, I was impressed!! I knew the stage manager so I was able to get an autographed poster which I was very pleased with since Clarence wasn't seeing anyone or signing autographs. Later though I got the chance of a life time when I was walking out of the casino and who do I run in to? Yep, there was Clarence! I walked up to him and he shook hands with me, was very nice...told him I'd seen him several times before and of course voiced my displeasure about the band not coming to Memphis, and since he seemed to be enjoying himself he said he hoped they came back....maybe he'll mention it, but he probably has little say in the schedule. Like I said he was very nice and even let my wife and I take a few photos with him...so I guess if don't make it to a show this time its not a total loss! Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2002 18:41:49 +0800 From: "Steve Schechter" Subject: RE: LuckyTown Digest V9 #36 At least you can drive for three hours and see him somewhere. Reviving a long-standing complaint, what about fans in Asia? I live in Hong Kong. In the past I had the option of flying 5 hours to Tokyo, 9 hours to Sydney or 15 hours to L.A., then paying scalper prices for tickets, plus hotel, etc. This time out, it looks like he's on the road for over a year and the choices are Sydney or the U.S.? So we're talking roughly US$2,000 here. I may have been a rabid fan for 30 years, but this just ain't worth it. My only realistic option for seeing and hearing this show is gonna be bootlegs. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:55:50 -0500 From: Corson@luckytown.org, christine_corson@city.vancouver.bc.ca] Subject: "North American" Tour. What about CANADA? In comment to the message below, I have to agree that I am also not happy that Bruce continually visits only Toronto and skips the rest of Canada (Vancouver is a major city and lots of fans live here and buy his cd's, DVD's, etc). 3 shows in Vancouver, 1 each in '78, '84, & '92, and that's it!! (I personally attended the shows in '84 & '92, but missed '78 because I was only 10 years old). From what I heard Bruce said he enjoyed the enthusiastic crowds here on the West Coast of Canada and he'd be back. When will he be back??!! I have personally travelled to concerts in CA, N.Y., N.J., WA, and OR since 1984 in order to attend concerts on each tour. There is nothing like having the tour come to YOUR hometown for one thing... and I have gone to considerable expense to travel just to see concerts. As I get older, the money situation gets tighter and tighter, and our Canadian dollar is worth so little in comparison to the American dollar, that these trips are becoming FAR too expensive for my budget. I will continue to travel in order to see concerts, but ideally Bruce would acknowledge us Canadians and visit us once in a while... Christine ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:49:08 -0500 From: krimar@shaw.ca] Subject: North American tour? Yeah right! As was mentioned here so eloquently by someone else on this digest, there are many Canadian fans who are not too happy that the tour is hitting one lone Canadian city - Toronto. I moved from Montreal to Calgary in 1998, and the three shows I've been lucky enough to see since then have been in New Jersey. Bruce has not visited any Canadian city other than Toronto in the last 10 years. Someone show Jon Landau a map and point out where Canada is!!!! Marvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:48:26 -0500 From: Gabor.Palasti@luckytown.org Subject: GA floor has been the main rule in Europe for decades and it works Dear Fellow LTD'ers, Since the main rule for rock concerts in Europe is that there are never seats in the arena area of the stadium, with 20+ rather large shows like that in milage (not just Bruce but other big names) and a few fixed seat experiences I would like to tell you that some of the fears that come with introducing this system in the U.S. are more unjustified than not. In fact comparing the two kinds of experience the GA floor admission system provides for a much more vivid concert experience than the fixed seat arrangement. The most important thing of course is that if you are standing, you can wholly enjoy the show by freely dancing and jumping to the numbers. And since all others do the same, you do not have to be afraid of disturbing anyone. It provides for a higher level of extasy that comes with the music. You can much better forget about the outside world - all the others will be doing the same as well. My obstervation is that in a GA system you become part of the production and the magic while if you are fixed onto your seat you are just an outside observer - no matter how much you thing you enjoy the show. And of course the fear that you will not be able to stand there in one spot for 3+ hours, not to mention to jump or dance is not, for the average person, justified. You will be surprised to see that you have been jumping for 2,5 hours enthusiastically and caught in the midst of it you do not feel exhausted at all, I would say, up to 60 or so years of age of an average person. Hey, if Bruce can do that... In the GA system you can freely choose and change where you want to watch the show from. You can freely vary the angles from which you want to enjoy the performance - something you can not do if you have a fixed seat. Also, if you think that there is someone bigger standing in front of you and you can not see the stage - fine, there are about 10,000+ other options to choose from among, you can walk away. If you have a fixed seat and you can not see the stage because of the large back of the guy in front of you, there is little that you can do about that. As for the fear of being trampled on or badly pushed or anything alike - it harldy ever happens. The main rule is that everyone has his/her standing place and people will not offence that integrity - just like you will not do this to others. In fact if there are some drunks sometimes pushing around, the crowd very quickly stops them. Still on this fear, in fact in a GA system there is no stage rush as such at all, simply because people have been standing *there* since the beginning of the show. Finally, the GA system offers a choice between two options, since you may still select to be seated around the arena. The fixed seat system offers no such choice. As for the charge raised by one LTD'er that the reason for introducing this system is to have more money - I think it does not stand its ground. The simplest reason to argue is that earning more money from the shows would be much easier to achieve by rising the ticket price and not by bothering about the costly removal of all the chairs from their places and after the show putting them back, all at the cost of the organizers. Economically speaking the surplus that the introduction of the GA system into a fixed seat venue would bring by facilitating the selling of more tickets is not very big due to the extra costs of removing and later restoring the chairs. What could be the reason of introducing GA? I can think of two things: one is that Bruce saw how much bigger the concert experience was in the venues where the GA system works (in all Europe, I don't know about other parts of the world - Australia, Asia, Japan, Africa). The other obviously is that more people can attend the show because the place occupied by one person in the arena is about half than in a fixed seat setting. And I am sure the person named Larry making the remark in Digest No. 34 that > This is a move to pack more people on the floor and make more money at > the expense of the fans - period. would not say this if he were the first person in a fixed seat floor system not to be able to buy a ticket simply because they had been sold out while he (and a few hundreds - thousands, depending on the size of the venue - others) would easily get in in a GA floor system. For whom are the fears identified in the Digest are justified? People completely very small, or weak, or suffering some hard heart disease or having claustrofobia or with other like disablities and heavy drunks are advised not to go to the GA floor. Note, that if someone has some sudden health problem during the show the regular procedure is that all others will pass this person to the edge of the arena above their heads where there is first aid waiting. I have seen this working in many countries. And a few practical notes: releave yourself of bodily waste before the show starts. It may be very annoying to leave your good place in front of the stage for a piss and not be able to go back. Also, for the same reason: don't drink a lot before the show. A 2,5 or so hours show is not that long that an average human body would not be able to easily survive without water intake even during heavy sweating. Finally: since you will be more than wet afterwards, take a second T-shirt with yourself to exchange after the show. Just stuff it into your pocket or put it around your waist. All in all, to me the fixed seat Bruce rock concerts that I have attended were like being tied to a chair while beautiful women were undressing themselves in front of me - me not being able to reach out to them or touch them. A truly mazochist experience. Have a nice tour, enjoy the arena, Greetings from Hungary, Gabor Palasti ------------------------------ End of LuckyTown Digest V9 #38 ****************************** ********************************************************************* ** LuckyTown WWW URL ** The LuckyTown FAQ, back issues, web-based subscription/unsubscription, and many other things can be found on the LuckyTown WWW Page: http://www.luckytown.org ** LuckyTown mailing list addresses ** You can send email to go into the next LuckyTown Digest to: luckytown@luckytown.org You can send email to go into the next LuckyTown-Ads Digest to: luckytown-ads@luckytown.org Any questions for the list admin should be emailed to: owner-luckytown@luckytown.org To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@luckytown.org with message body: unsubscribe luckytown-digest To get further information on how to subscribe/unsubscribe/change your subscription address, as well as the other available commands, send email to majordomo@luckytown.org with message body: help ********************************************************************* The contents of this digest are not necessarily approved by the list admin.