From: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org (LuckyTown Digest) To: luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Subject: LuckyTown Digest V9 #77 Reply-To: luckytown@luckytown.org Sender: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Errors-To: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Precedence: bulk LuckyTown Digest Tuesday, August 27 2002 Volume 09 : Number 077 NOTE: Sale/trade posts should be emailed to luckytown-ads, *NOT* to luckytown. That includes tix wanted/tix grovels, post them to luckytown-ads, please. Contents: Links to LA and Phoenix reviews ["Green, Denise" ] Who Is This Tour For? [bcurrent@adex-intl.com] At Last, in Tacoma [Chris Ryan ] Priceless in Tacoma ["Campbell, James" ] General Admission in Portland and Tacoma [Martin Screech ] For What It's Worth [jsavage@concentric.net (Johnny Saulovich)] DC, politicians and Bruce [Ms Maria Niles ] European tickets [wollersheims@t-online.de (Hilde und Thomas Wollersheim] St. Louis Post Concert Gathering place ["JEWELL MARK" Subject: Links to LA and Phoenix reviews http://www.calendarlive.com/music/cl-et-hilburn26aug26.story LA Times review http://www.arizonarepublic.com/arizona/articles/0824brucetix24.html Phoenix articles & slide show http://www.azcentral.com/ent/music/articles/0825springsteenrev25.html Denise D. Green ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 08:52:50 -0400 From: bcurrent@adex-intl.com Subject: Who Is This Tour For? Do you remember the first time you read a Luckytown Digest? I do. It was a strange experience. You see, I had listened to Bruce since I was 10, when Born in the U.S.A. came out. I must admit, I originally just liked the songs because of the tune, and never really listened to the words. It was only later in life that I really started listening, and realized all that was being said behind the music. Fast forward to the 90's, and Ghost of Tom Joad came out. Up to then, I was a big Bruce fan; I owned all the albums after and including BITUSA, and had only Nebraska from his earlier stuff. Tom Joad blew me away, and I saw my first concert in Cincinnati on that tour. It was around this time that I started buying albums from his back catalogue, and joined the digest. My first reaction to the digest was almost funny in retrospect. I couldn't believe what a bunch of crazy fanatics you all were! Bootlegs, which I never even knew existed, were available for what seemed to be every conceivable performance Bruce had ever done. People were still debating songs off of Human Touch. Every lyric and performance was analyzed, dissected, and discussed. Weeks of reading about all things Springsteen turned into years, I started buying bootlegs from shows and studio outtakes, and before I knew it, I had become one of the so-called "fanatics" I once laughed about. You see, when you follow an artist this closely, it's almost impossible to prevent this from happening. Somewhere during the process, you begin to lose something important to any music listener - perspective. I've been reading the recent digests, and I must say, I'm not surprised at the reaction to the recent shows. Many folks seem downright angry at the quality of show they are seeing these days. "Why can't he play the old stuff?" "I don't know whether to stand up, sit down, cheer, or be quiet? is this really supposed to be a Springsteen show?" "I don't understand why he can't play two sets, then we would get that 4 hour show we've been waiting for since 1980!" I think most of us, myself included, often miss the point. Being a huge fan of an artist to the point of fanaticism, while fun and certainly an enjoyable way to spend your extra time, usually clouds your vision of the music. As soon as a new album comes out, you start comparing it to other albums. You start searching your studio outtakes collection to find where he has sung a certain line before. You dedicate yourself to memorizing the words, so that everybody knows you're a "real fan" when you sing along with everything at the concert. I don't believe these shows, or this album for that matter, are about all that. These songs are important, people! I remember back when the tragedy happened, after about three days I was so sick of seeing footage of that monstrous jet striking that tower and killing all of those innocent people, I turned off the news. I just could not take it any more. Now, I listen to someone complain about waiting to get on a plane, and I want to grab them by ear, drag them to the nearest television, and show them again. But I can't do that. The footage is gone, understandably. Now here comes Bruce. Singing songs about it. Dedicating half of his shows to it. Keeping this horrible memory alive, because the souls of the departed can't ever forget. And many of us are sick of it. We want a party, We want to forget. We want to dance, and drink, and rock and roll. I believe Bruce does try to appease that desire, by peppering the playlist with a few celebratory nuggets. But that still is not what this tour is about. This tour is NOT for the people who are going to see thirty shows. This album is NOT for the music critics who want a ground breaking new sound. This tour is NOT for a group of college frat boys out on the town looking to dance and get stupid. This album is NOT for us, the Luckytowners, who, despite our analytic discussions and "true fan" attitudes, are really nothing more than music lovers who've found salvation in an artist who speaks to us. This tour is for the souls of the departed. This album is for the newly single mother, trying to deal with the fact that she will now raise her children alone, and has lost her best friend. This tour is for remembrance, and history, and humanity. This album is for anyone who turns their back on hatred, and violence, and vengeance, and has faith in love and understanding. When you go to a show on this tour, please try to keep your perspective. Bruce gave you a party a couple years ago, but now he wants you to remember something more important. Ben Current Trenton, OH ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 23:11:44 -0700 From: Chris Ryan Subject: At Last, in Tacoma I found myself in an incredible but probably unusual position in Tacoma last Wednesday night. I've been a Springsteen fanatic (off and on) since about a year after "Darkness" was released. And yet, this was the very first night I'd ever seen Bruce with the E Street Band. This was partly location, and partly bad luck. I was too young to see the '"Darkness" show in Vancouver; in '84 I was a poor student over on Vancouver Island when he played in the city. He didn't come back until the '92 HT/LT tour, which I did see. Was lucky enough to attend the Tom Joad tour in San Jose, while I was living in Silicon Valley. It's been frustrating for us Western Canadian fans (as Bruce Elbeblawy noted here recently). So I thought the large Canadian flag in the Tacoma Dome was a nice gesture (though I'd prefer a concert in my back yard, of course). I've heard Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band perform "Darkness on the Edge of Town." I can die now. Stated simply, I can't imagine a much better concert. And, given the choice, I'd much rather hear "Empty Sky/You're Missing" than, say, "Working on the Highway." I'm one of those fans for whom "Born in the U.S.A." has not aged well at all (not that I thought it was his best when released). I enjoyed the title song well enough in Tacoma, but I just can't stand "Dancing in the Dark," and "Bobby Jean" sounded like a throwaway--an uninspired throwaway--to these ears. I think "The Rising" is great. Whether or not it's among Bruce's best (I think it is), I find it's something I want to listen to. And, unlike some others, I think it works really well in concert: it only adds to the band's range, and this becomes clear when the songs are heard in the context of the classics. The old songs are great, but I also want to hear something new (part of the reason I didn't make an effort to get out to the "reunion" tour). But I've already written a review of the album ("Come On, Rise Up!" in LTD V9 #62). The sound was excellent. The performance was inspired--this is such a great band. And I'm looking forward to being 52. :) For me, it is difficult to pick highlights. The opening sequence of "The Rising," "Lonesome Day" (better in concert than on CD), "Prove It All Night," "The Fuse," and "Darkness" was very strong. The "Empty/Missing" segment was amazing--does anyone besides me think that the latter should be the next single? "Waitin'" was wonderful (I heard it on several car stereos after the show). "Into the Fire" was a great close to the regular set, in my opinion. One of the best tunes from the new CD. Both encores were strong, though as I've mentioned I can do without "DITD." Amazing to hear "Ramrod," and did Bruce ever play it up! The second encore ("My City of Ruins," "BITUSA," "Land of Hope and Dreams") was exquisite. I couldn't have asked for more. My wife and thirteen-year-old daughter came along. I knew I'd enjoy the show, but I was struck by how much they did. In particular, they both commented (again) on how much they like "Worlds Apart;" and also how well the show was put together in terms of the set list. This second comment was interesting because neither are really familiar with the art form to which Springsteen has elevated his set lists over the years. I hope I get another chance to see this show. Chris ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 07:37:21 -0700 From: "Campbell, James" Subject: Priceless in Tacoma I made the 1100 mile round trip to Tacoma to take my 11 year-old son to see Bruce for his first concert ever. It brought back a lot of emotions for me from my first Bruce concert in 1978. It would have been a perfect set-up for a Visa (or is it MasterCard) commercial - "$180 for tickets, 1100 mile drive, seeing your son have a religious experience at a Bruce concert - PRICELESS". To really top things off, we also got LIRed. A lady walked by us and said "That lady in red over there has a bunch of tickets and she is moving people up". My son bolted over and asked if we could move up. We went from the back to the front. We were about 10 feet in front of the stage and about 100 feet to the side. Truly a priceless experience. I am always amazed how tight the E-Street Band is. It is almost as if they are a single organism! Jim C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 22:30:04 -0700 From: Martin Screech Subject: General Admission in Portland and Tacoma Despite some problems with implementation, the general admission policy for this tour is fantastic. It allows those people who really care about being up front to get there (at a reasonable cost), and enjoy the show safely, and gives the band close proximity to their most enthusiastic supporters. Many thanks to Bill Daverne and helpers for their work in organizing the line. I think Bruce would be pleased that this has evolved from the fan base itself, although there has to be more cooperation from the various venues to make it work smoothly. MOS _________________________________________________ Martin O. Screech Voice at home: 250.390.4826 Voice at work: 250.754.1295 Electronic mail: mscreech@shaw.ca "The Ox has left the building." ________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:30:52 -0400 From: JZellers@dhhs.state.nh.us Subject: Sunny Day - Reviewers missing the poignancy Tim - I agree with you on this. I do think reviewers are missing something if they think Sunny Day is just simplistic pop. I also noted a review recently in which Countin' on a Miracle was dismissed as a "breakup song". I was a bit flabbergasted! Here again, if one reads the lyrics and pays attention to them and the music, this is a far better song (about the death of a loved one and how one attempts to deal with that) than many seem to be realizing. Thanks for your insights on Sunny Day. John p.s. I've found Sunny Day to work even better for me if I program it to follow Nothing Man, i.e. I flip-flop the two songs. p.p.s. To the author of "wrong, wrong, wrong..." regarding American Skin: my thanks to you as well. This is not meant to be an "anti-cop" song. It is a shame sometimes that things get interpreted or explained in a rather superficial way. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 19:53:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Frank Lesko Subject: Re: Bruce is wasting the E Street Band. Just to add a few thoughts to Steve Leftridge's recent post. I've never seen such talent absolutely wasted. I'm all for promoting an "ensemble sound" but for crying out loud! I thought the E Street band was held back and underutilized in the past at times, but I was always fed the line that it was to promote a "song focus." But all I really see now is that the band is held back to promote a "Bruce focus." Look, I know he's the star and there's no getting around that (nor would I want to), but I come to a concert to hear the band EQUALLY as much as to hear Bruce, and so do my friends. Some have commented that the band just doesn't seem as into it as they used to be, and people cite their age as a possible reason. But if I was told to hold myself back and limit my own creative expression, I'd also be less "into it." Roys play the intro to Thunder Road now like he's afraid to stand out in a crowd. Not even one solo by Nils?? That's got to be a sin. That brief-but-wild slide work in Lonesome Day early in the show whets my appetite for.... very little from him to follow. Bruce supposedly commented at the DC show that Nils was THE greatest guitarist in the world, then not to even allow him even a small window to share his gift with the world is tragic. Just can't be justified. Period. I used to think it was a such a testament to Bruce's own vision and self-confidence the way he allowed the band to be so expressive in the past. He still maintained the center, no problem. Now, I feel like I'm getting a sense of Bruce's ego and I don't like it. There are probably just as many solos as there used to be. They are just all Bruce's solos. There is still plenty of lengthy improvisation, its just all Bruce--whether its vocal, guitar or harmonica. I have trouble believeing that this is all the band's choice. I mean, it can be quite fun to lock into a tight rhythmnic ensemble, but at some point an instrumentalist wants to let his imagination run! Philosophically speaking, a guitar solo can speak to the message of a song just as much as a section of lyrics, so I can't buy the idea that solos or developed-instrumentation take away from a song focus. Then I guess I should also ask does Bruce's 3-minute guitar solo in Born in the USA also take away from that song?? I guess if I take a step back and dissect the songs, I'd say there was plenty of expression at least by Clarence, Max and Soosie. But the overall impression that left a bad tast im my mouth was that the band was held back. Its still a good show. More negative vibes than in the past for some reason, but still good. I still love Bruce. He's still great. But I just can't believe the way the E Street Band's been sidelined so much. Some things just go to together. You know, bread n' butter, peanut butter and jelly, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. Each by themselves is great, but together those combinations are legendary. Bruce is good. Heck, he's great! But he's not THAT great, at least, not without the E Street Band. Its ok to say that, you know. Frank Lesko __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:08:53 -0700 From: jsavage@concentric.net (Johnny Saulovich) Subject: For What It's Worth Here's a well-crafted editorial which captures exactly what Bruce is alluding to in his preface to the electric performance of "Born In The USA." Enjoy. Johnny Albany, CA - ----- Ashcroft -- above the law? Friday, August 23, 2002 2002 San Francisco Chronicle. Page A - 28 URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2002/08/23 /ED134724.DTL THE CHAIR of a congressional committee should not be forced to issue a subpoena to get the U.S. attorney general to respond to basic questions about the administration of justice in this country. And Americans who worry about civil liberties should not have to file a lawsuit to determine whether their government is scanning library records or monitoring the e-mail of people who are not suspected of any crime. But the Justice Department appears unwilling to subject itself to even the most rudimentary levels of accountability over the way it has handled the vast new powers it acquired under the so-called Patriot Act last year. Extraordinary arrogance calls for extraordinary steps. So, Rep. James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., the House Judiciary Committee chair, has threatened to subpoena Attorney General John Ashcroft if he continues to resist requests for the administration to disclose how often it has used its new investigative powers. "I've never signed a subpoena in my 5 1/2 years as chairman," Sensenbrenner told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "I guess there's a first time for everything." It is important to note that Sensenbrenner is not asking for specifics that could endanger an investigation. He merely wants to know whether the government is using this powers. It is not only a reasonable request in an democracy. It is an essential one. The American Civil Liberties Union, along with the Electronic Privacy Information Center and the American Booksellers Foundation for Free Expression, added their weight to the pressure on Ashcroft this week by filing a Freedom of Information request. The groups are asking the Justice Department how many times it has: - -- Traced the telephone calls or e-mails of people who are not suspected of any crime. - -- Directed a library, bookstore or newspaper to produce information about materials acquired by an individual. - -- Conducted "sneak and peek" searches in which the targets were not informed until after the fact. - -- Investigated U.S. citizens and other legal residents on the basis of "activities protected by the First Amendment," such as attending a rally or writing a letter to the editor. As Chris Finan, president of the American Booksellers group, said, "When the FBI is given the power to investigate what people are reading, the American people deserve to know how that power is being used." And Americans should not have to go to court to get an answer. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 14:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Ms Maria Niles Subject: DC, politicians and Bruce >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 09:02:04 -0400 >From: Dave Marsh >Subject: Gore tickets >I hate Al and Tipper Gore 100x time as much as Arlen >Schumer hates >Bruce Springsteen's albums. >But that story is complete crap. It just didn't >happen. Don't know the validity of this one either but don't recall seeing it on the digest... From WSJ Washington Wire column before DC show... "Scalping, D.C.-Style: GOP House Speaker Hastert's fund-raising committee, Kompac, sells tickets for $2,000 each to Bruce Springsteen's concert here tomorrow night." Why do I not think this is a "charity" Bruce donated tix to so they could raise funds? ;-> And while I'm outta lurk mode - MSG was awesome, the new material sounded great, one of the best of the 30 Bruce shows I've seen since I've been going from the River tour on. Beg, borrow, (don't steal) do what you gotta do to see this tour. Bruce's messages of Love, Hope and Faith were interwoven throughout the whole show and it was a joy to experience. And stuff like the sound being much improved from last tour made it great as well. I'm only sorry that I couldn't get tix for 2 friends who have finally come to really appreciate Bruce's music and have never seen him live. This would have been a great show to introduce them. (I had a "in the building" seat - got 1 through frantic dialing and typing - 400 level behind the stage - still awesome and completely worth it.) And hi to the guy I met on the subway who has seen Bruce 154! times and Rocco who I met on the Metro North train on the way home - nice to meet some fellow tramps on "this train". P.S. as a totally random aside - I recently started working for an organic food company and was thrilled to read in NYT and RS that Bruce is turning his farm organic. Maria __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 19:39:55 +0200 From: wollersheims@t-online.de (Hilde und Thomas Wollersheim) Subject: European tickets Hi everyone, I haven't seen too much info about the european ticket sales. I managed two snag 2 GA tickets from www.francebillet.com who promise to send the tix to my (german) adress for 10 Euro extra. There was no info on this beforehand except for the one poster here - Backstreet had nothing (and still hasn't anything - even though I informed them. They only talk about Sep 6th as the starting point for the London show (which I'm not too sure is even sold anywhere but the UK. Does anybody know anything about Rotterdam ? Advisable website ? Tickets per Post didn't say anything about the Berlin show yesterday... Glad for any info concerning London, Rotterdam and Berlin, Thomas in Cologne (now proud owner of tickets for 3 concerts !) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:39:46 -0500 From: "JEWELL MARK" Subject: St. Louis Post Concert Gathering place Hi All, Coming in from KC to see the St. Louis show. Anyone know of any post concert gathering places? markdjewell@msn.com tx Mark [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:56:52 -0500 From: Barry Kaplovitz Subject: 'The Cult Of Bruce: The fawning over Springsteen is now officially nauseating.' (Mark Gauvreau Judge, The Wall Street Journal) The Wall Street Journal August 23, 2002 TASTE COMMENTARY The Cult of Bruce The fawning over Springsteen is now officially nauseating. BY MARK GAUVREAU JUDGE He's back. Bruce Springsteen, the man who almost got me assaulted in 1984, is once again topping the pop music charts with a new album, "The Rising," written as a response to Sept. 11. He's the subject of hagiographies in Time and Rolling Stone and was interviewed by Ted Koppel and entertained by Katie Couric, who genuflected (rhetorically) before his greatness on "Today." Back in 1984, when I was a college student, I panned the album "Born in the U.S.A.," Bruce's breakthrough (coming years after the early so-called triumph of "Born to Run"). The college paper ran an entire page of letters calling me a fool--one from my own brother. I was even warned about going to a certain bar favored by some of The Boss's disciples. Had I only realized then what I do now: There is no reasoning with Springsteen fans. They form their own religion, or rather their own cult. Bruce's return is their Second Coming, and third and fourth, depending on how you count. Indeed, religion is the only way to explain the Pauline tone of the Return of the Boss. "Bruce Springsteen has gathered many a superlative over the years," Kurt Loder panted in a five-star Rolling Stone review. I had a flash of hope that a "but" was going to follow that clause, but then came the geyser of gush: "Even for him, though, 'The Rising,' with its bold thematic concentration and penetrating emotional focus, is a singular triumph. I can't think of another album in which such an abundance of great songs might be said to seem the least of its achievements." The music, indeed, is beside the point, but perhaps that is just as well, because Springsteen's can be bombastic and throbbingly dull. But never mind. Springsteen's admirers are caught up in his iconic image, his heroic working-class poses, his Asbury Park grittiness, his attempts to speak for the alienated, etc. Thus what matters is the "message," the latest pronouncement from The Boss. We've been told more than once in recent weeks that someone stopped Bruce's car on Sept. 11 and shouted, "We need you!" The press has apparently joined the choir of petitioners. To say that, on "Today," Katie Couric was giggly and schoolgirlish is an insult to giggly schoolgirls. Ms. Couric, a member of our fierce, cantankerous independent press, could not come up with a single decent question--unless you consider 87 variations on "How do you do it?" probing. Ditto oracle Ted Koppel, who offered the same template as every other journalist: Springsteen was upset by the terrorist bombings and as a Man of the People decided to write an album about it. He is an American icon and a savior! End of conversation. Then Ted had Bruce as an overnight guest at his beach house, something the haired one never did for Boris Yeltsin. (Can you imagine the cultural uplift if "Today" and Ted gave similar time to one of America's great jazz or classical singers--you know, people whose music deserved such adoration? You probably can't; neither can I.) In his Rolling Stone review, Mr. Loder brought new artfulness to the fawning: "The small miracle of [Springsteen's] accomplishment is that at no point does he give vent to the anger felt by so many Americans: the hunger for revenge." So much for Bruce's lyric (admittedly weird) from the song "On Empty Sky": "I want a kiss from your lips / I want an eye for an eye." Even Springsteen is powerless over the Springsteen cult. A cultural critic in the New York Post called "The Rising" "a celebration of the human spirit." Well, maybe. But doesn't that apply even more to songs that are better crafted, that lift the spirit through the genius of their sound? The title song on "The Rising" is ham-fisted and stiff--a cheesy anthem by a cheesy Jersey band. It really doesn't matter that one of the songs on the album is about a firefighter's widow and speaks "for us all." Supposedly important lyrics with bad music behind them equals bad music. Billy Strayhorn penned one of the most uplifting songs of all time, the Duke Ellington theme "Take the A Train." It's about riding a subway. Bruce would have put a homeless guy on the train, never mind what he would have done to the tune. Naturally, after years of mega-success, a millionaire many times over, Bruce still wears the same crappy clothes and assumes the same working-stiff stance--a deeply silly sign of deference to the fetish of "authenticity" that is the core of rock culture. But don't hold that against him! "Springsteen doesn't know what a 40-hour workweek feels like," a writer for Time magazine admitted, "but he knows how a 40-hour work week makes you feel." Alleluia! If the cult of Bruce has a high priest, it is Eric Alterman, the columnist for the Nation magazine and the author, in 1999, of the adoring "It Ain't No Sin to Be Glad You're Alive: The Promise of Bruce Springsteen." In it Mr. Alterman recounts his thoughts at the moment he went weak-kneed and actually got to meet his god: "There were any number of times since I had turned fifteen when I felt as if Bruce were somehow saving my life. He had provided the one constant between my adolescence and my adulthood, between my being the son of my father and the father of my daughter. He had been a source of hope and inspiration, of friendship and fortitude, of therapy and solidarity, of consolation and exhilaration." What more is there to say? The current album has Mr. Alterman a little tortured, since it is patriotic, in a smarmy way, and thus possibly exploitative of a tragic moment and of "America's mighty mass-marketing machine." Indeed, "The Rising" raises, for Mr. Alterman, "some complicated questions about art, politics and commerce." Even so, Springsteen gets a pass from Mr. Alterman, who scalps a member of his other religion, leftism, when said member questions Bruce's motives in the Village Voice. After all, says Mr. Alterman, Bruce "has done more than any American artist" to give voice to the "other" American--that is, "the humiliated Vietnam veteran, the fired factory worker, the hunted illegal immigrant, the death-row inmate," etc. He's also given voice to some other American breeds: the toady, the sycophant, the lapdog journalist, the tin-eared bore. Maybe Springsteen himself is a bit put off by the mad ardor of his fans, like a guru embarrassed by the zealousness of his followers. Or maybe not. Mr. Judge is the author of "If It Ain't Got That Swing: The Rebirth of Grown-Up Culture." Copyright 2000 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. 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