From: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org (LuckyTown Digest) To: luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Subject: LuckyTown Digest V9 #100 Reply-To: luckytown@luckytown.org Sender: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Errors-To: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Precedence: bulk LuckyTown Digest Wednesday, October 30 2002 Volume 09 : Number 100 NOTE: Sale/trade posts should be emailed to luckytown-ads, *NOT* to luckytown. That includes tix wanted/tix grovels, post them to luckytown-ads, please. Contents: Tickets on sale for Netherlands this Saturday... ["Dagi Johnson" ] Rotterdam, May 6 2003 ["Dennis Vroegop" ] Re: Mary's Place ["David Kieltyka" ] Lyric Interpretations [billellenconlon@webtv.net (William Conlon)] Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #98 [JJHinMI@aol.com] Re: Rising Vinyl [Dan Stiffler ] Re: Youngest Fan [Hanaweih@aol.com] Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #98 ["Eric Douglas" ] Real fans vs. pretenders [David Hoff ] Sopranos - end credits [Marvin&Kristy ] Re: ROTTERDAM SHOW - INCIDENTS IN E STREET ["Ron Cecchini" Subject: Tickets on sale for Netherlands this Saturday... According to Sonymusic Neatherlands tickets for Bruce go on sale this Saturday. I guess the whole tour starts over again. Dagi - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Original Mail von Sonymusic - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello, Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Perform will perform on the 6th of May in De Kuip in Rotterdam. Pre-sale starts at Saturday the 02 of November. You can order tickets via www.ticketservice.nl Kind regards, Sony Music [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:22:27 +0100 From: "Bruce Springsteen" Subject: Dates set for Midsummer concerts in Sweden Dear Tramps, It seems that Bruce wants to spend Midsummer in Sweden. The Swedish Newspaper Expressen reports that there will be 2 concerts at Ullevi, Gothenburg on june 21 & 22, 2003. The article (in Swedish) can be found at: http://www.expressen.se/article.asp?id7467 At least the first date have been confirmed by the production company EMA Telstar. The tickets for the first venue (21/6) will go on sale at 9 CET on November 5 !!! Sales information (in Swedish) can be found at: http://www.ema.se/ (Click on a well-known name on the right) [ Summary in English: Tickets cost 450 SEK & 550 SEK + fees. Tickets will be sold by Scandinaviums ticket office 031 - 81 10 20, BiljettDirekt/Ticnet 077 170 70 70, www.ticnet.se (limited quantity) There will be a maximum of 12 tickets per person. The tickets will be on sale November 5 at 9 CET.] [ Note: The Ullevi (soccer) stadium was cracked by audience dancing at two Bruce concerts back in the summer of 1985. It had to be renovated for countless millions and was unavailable for concerts for several years. Both concerts in 1985 were sold out with a total of 127.000 spectators. ] It seems we can look forward to a sweaty summer. Welcome to Sweden! Regards, Robert H _________________________________________________________________ Chatta med v'nner p n'tet, prova MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.se ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 15:25:39 +0200 From: Virta Jyrki Subject: Tourstatics after 28 shows and finally a show in Finland !!!!!! Greetings from Finland ! Finally Bruce & E Street Band will play in Finland. The date is 17th June, 2003. The tickets will be released next Tuesday 5th November. They will cost 49 EUR, 59 EUR and 69 EUR. There will be 12 ticket / order limit. For further info www.welldone.fi and the tickets can be sold thru Lippupalvelu www.lippupalvelu.fi nbr of times played 1 The Rising 28 100% 2 Lonesome Day 28 100% 3 Prove It All Night 17 61% 4 The Fuse 20 71% 5 Darkness On The Edge Of Town 12 43% 6 Empty Sky 28 100% 7 You're Missing 28 100% 8 Waitin' On A Sunny Day 28 100% 9 The Promised Land 23 82% 10 World's Apart 28 100% 11 Two Hearts 3 11% 12 Badlands 27 96% 13 Mary's Place 28 100% 14 Countin' On A Miracle 28 100% 15 American Skin (41 Shots) 8 29% 16 Into The Fire 28 100% 17 Born To Run 28 100% 18 Glory Days 8 29% 19 Thunder Road 18 64% 20 My City Of Ruins 28 100% 21 Born In The U.S.A. 28 100% 22 Land Of Hope And Dreams 28 100% 23 Bobby Jean 12 43% 24 Viva Las Vegas 1 4% 25 Atlantic City 3 11% 26 Backsteets 3 11% 27 Dancing In The Dark 21 75% 28 Ramrod 19 68% 29 Downbound Train 1 4% 30 The Ties That Bind 4 14% 31 Candy's Room 3 11% 32 Racing In The Street 2 7% 33 I'm A Rocker 1 4% 34 Night 7 25% 35 Something In The Night 3 11% 36 She's The One 15 54% 37 Incident On 57th Street 6 21% 38 Kansas City 1 4% 39 Jackson Cage 3 11% 40 For You 6 21% 41 My Hometown 3 11% 42 No Surrender 10 36% 43 Mary Queen Of Arkansas 1 4% 44 Little Queenie 1 4% 45 Working On The Highway 4 14% 46 Further On (Up The Road) 4 14% 47 Nothing Man 1 4% 48 Dirty Water 1 4% 49 Does This Bus Stop 82nd St? 2 7% 50 Streets Of Philadelphia 1 4% 51 Kitty's Back 1 4% 52 You Can Look 2 7% 53 Tougher Than The Rest 1 4% 54 Lost In The Flood 1 4% 55 Spirit In The Night 1 4% 56 Stand On It 1 4% 57 The Promise 1 4% 58 The River 2 7% 59 Gloria 1 4% avarage 23 songs per show A songs played live from this album B number of songs on album C portion of songs from album played D portion of songs played live A B C D 5 Greetings 9 56 8 2 Wild 7 29 3 5 Born To Run 8 63 8 7 Darkness On The 10 70 12 7 The River 20 35 12 1 Nebraska 10 10 2 8 Born In The USA 12 67 14 1 Tunnel Of Love 12 8 2 1 Greatest Hits 5 20 2 1 Tracks 66 2 2 1 18 Tracks 3 33 2 5 Cover 8 2 Live In NYC 2 100 3 13 The Rising 15 87 22 59 ...'cause tramps like us keep on rockin' Jyrki ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 18:28:55 -0800 From: Andrew Laurence Subject: Barcelona review My brother provides a translation of the Wednesday, October 16 review, from El Pais, Madrid. (http://www.elpais.es/) Translated by Peter Laurence >Bruce Springsteen makes 18,000 fans in Barcelona delirious > > The Boss rocks the house at Palau Sant Jordi > >MIQUEL JURADO | Barcelona > > >Bruce Springsteen's appearance last night on the enormous stage at Palau >Sant Jordi was marked by a pounding rythmic crescendo and the forceful >message of THE RISING. The title track of his last disk and the world tour >which came to Barcelona, served as a starter's pistol shot for what one >could very well qualify as collective exstacy. The song's refrain was >already being sung by the 18,000 fans that filled the Olympic sports >stadium, waving their arms in the air and making in clear that even the >Boss's most recent work has made a deep impact. > >"¡Hola, Barcelona! How are you?". At 9 o'clock (TV is in charge, and the >concert would be directly transmitted by satellite by MTV) Springsteen >stomped out on stage. Three day beard, dark corduroy jeans, print shirt, >black vest, leather vest, plugging away at his eternal Telecaster and >sweating from the first moment. Faithful to himself, he was just what they >were waiting for, and surely he disappointed no one. If the night began >hot, the temperature was shooting up in an almost geometric progression, due >to the intermingling of new songs with known songs, in long and forceful >versions, at times more driving than the original records. All most all of >the first part of the concert centered on songs from the new album. For the >fifth song, Empty Sky, he was on stage "en famille", that is, with his >acoustic guitar, his harmonica, and the choruses of his wife, Patti Scialfa. > >To make a separation, the first part culminated with a portentious >demonstration of rythm and communication: "She's the One," "Mary's Place," >and, above all, "Dancing in the Dark." These drove the public into a >frenzy, and the storm within threatened to bring Sant Jordi down. Arata >Isozaki's solid structures resisted the heat and the clamor the Bruce >Springsteen touched off. If the dead woke, no one would have been >surprised. Once everything was in the bag, The Boss consciously broke the >concert's rythym and sat at the piano, solo, to play a pair of songs from >his beginning. He even joked about the tuning and emptied a bottle of >water over his head. All very relaxed and tranquil. He continued with an >intense and emotional version of his latest record, "Into the Fire," >achieving one of the strangest finishes to a concert in recent times, with >the public touched by the profoundness of the theme, but totally silenced. > >Of course, it wasn't the case that he would leave the audience without >encores. The Boss came back for two long powerful sets in which he mixed >classics with recent issues. He got close to the people, let them play the >guitar, danced, and even got up on the piano. As if by magic, the heat >returned to Sant Jordi and the walls of the olympic stadium shook again with >"Born to Run," and logically, "Born in the USA," introduced in Catalan with >these words: "I wrote this song for the Vietnam war, but now I want to sing >it as a plea for peace. After this call to attention, the night ended with >hope to the chords of "Land of Hope and Dreams," amd there was even room for >a seventh encore. It was the end of over two and a half hours of driving >music. > >Throughout the entire evening, Springsteen left no doubt as to the sharp, >electric power of the new reorganization of his mythic E Street band. The >essential pillars were in place, including saxophonist Clarence Clemons and >guitarrists Little Stevie and Nils Lofgren. Again and again the three >demonstrated their mastery with many hard driving solos that lit everyone on >fire again and again. > > >The music was the center of the entire evening. There were no special >effects, nor was there any mounting of scenery. Quite the opposite: A >tremendously sober scene (black on black, 9 musicians dressed in black on a >black surface) but efficient for demonstrating a muscular and uncompromising >rock. > >Two enormous high definition video screens, a set of calm lights and >splendid sound, although a bit high in volume, rounded out the Boss's only >stop in Spain. - -- Andrew Laurence atlauren@uci.edu "Perceive the need." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:34:57 +0100 From: "Dennis Vroegop" Subject: Rotterdam, May 6 2003 Mojo Concerts announced Bruce and Band will kick off the 2003 European leg of the tour in Rotterdam, The Netherlands on May 6. The venue this will take place (De Kuip in Rotterdam) is the largest stadium we have here, so there will be a lot more fans being able to attend this show as there were on last Tuesdays show. There were a lot of problems concerning ticketsales here, something that has been discussed at great length here in the digest. I believe that the choice of the venue, the 10-tickets-per-person maximum and the early announcment are ways of Bruce and/or his management to give a strong signal, saying: "We had nothing to do with the problems concerning the ticketsales, but this is what we can do to make it better." (I also believe the MTV/VH1 broadcast of the Barcelona show should be seen in that light). So... I want to thank Bruce and Landau managament for restoring my faith! This time I will be in the ticketqueue (hoping to make lots of new friends there) and no one is going to prevent me and my wife from going there! (By that time our little baby will be born, I referred to her in the posting "Youngest Springsteen fan" a couple of days ago, but I don't think she will be able to join us there...). Thanks Bruce, Jon, and whoever is responsible for this! Just my 2cts.. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:52:35 -0400 From: "David Kieltyka" Subject: Re: Mary's Place I don't think it's particularly important that "Mary's Place" be tied to a specific geographical location. But I do think it's essential for anyone trying to understand the song to find a copy of Sam Cooke's "Meet Me At Mary's Place" and give it a listen. - -Dave- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:56:20 -0400 (EDT) From: billellenconlon@webtv.net (William Conlon) Subject: Lyric Interpretations This site has seen lots of interpretations of the lyrics to Mary's Place. Ten? Twenty? I'm writing to tell you which of them are correct. Ready? All of them are right on the button. Bruce has certain things in mind when he writes lyrics, of course, but once a song leaves his room and enters the world, it means whatever the listener thinks it means. Bruce may have had deep, serious intentions when he wrote Mary's Place, but somebody who thinks it's a trivial party song is absolutely right. And of course people who think otherwise about that song are correct also. A few months ago a guy from England wrote to LTD saying his girlfriend had just moved out on him, and he found himself playing You're Missing over and over. Why that song? Because it was about him and his girlfriend. Yes, we all know that Bruce had another idea in mind when he wrote those lyrics, but the British guy was 100% correct in his interpretation. Speculating as to what Bruce intended when he wrote a song is an interesting endeavor, and has resulted in some thought- provoking letters. But "wrong, wrong, wrong!" is just not an appropriate response to someone else's interpretation, no matter how much you disagree, and no matter how much that interpretation differs from that of Bruce himself. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 16:59:55 EDT From: JJHinMI@aol.com Subject: Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #98 IN response to: Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 10:34:58 -0700 From: jsavage@concentric.net (Johnny Saulovich) Subject: Not A Second Time - ----- On The Rising I hear traces of the Fabs -- from melody to production -- on: Countin' on a Miracle -- middle eight Empty Sky You're Missing My City of Ruins Anyone else? - --------------- Yeah, the verse melody of "Paradise" is unmistakably similar to "A Day In The Life" and Lennon's similar song, "Jealous Guy." [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:50:27 -0500 From: Dan Stiffler Subject: Re: Rising Vinyl "Maarten de Leeuw" writes: > I heard about "The Rising" being available on a vinyl double album as well. > Could anyone who has this tell me how the songs are split up. > In other words... what's the first song on side 1,2,3,4? > This in order to update my Springsteen discography. > Thanks for the help! First cuts: Side One: Lonesome Day Side Two: Countin' On A Miracle Side Three: Further On (Up The Road) Side Four: You're Missing Many thanks to Springsteen and Columbia for continuing to support vinyl! regards, Dan Stiffler ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:19:48 EDT From: Hanaweih@aol.com Subject: Re: Youngest Fan I think we're tied, Dennis! When I was 5 1/2 months pregnant with my 2nd son, I went to see Bruce in Boston (August 1999.) My little boy is now almost 3, LOVES to dance and always requests Bruce cds in the car. And his favorite bedtime song since infancy - "Pony Boy". :) To the new generation of Bruce fans - ROCK ON! Lynn Sometimes you're the windshield; Sometimes you're the bug. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 19:27:52 -0700 From: "Eric Douglas" Subject: Re: LuckyTown Digest V9 #98 > Interesting thought: > > You're Missing is the sequel to Counting on a Miracle > Lonesome Day is the sequel to Waitin' on a Sunny Day > > Agree or disagree? Whether or not other luckytowners agree or disagree is pretty irrelevant, I think. You have provided an interesting topic for thought and/or discussion, and that should be what this music is about. I don't think anyone (possibly excluding Bruce) could unequivocally say whether or not those are sequels to other songs, or if they were intended to be that way. In both cases above, Bruce did not place them in the suggested order on the CD, so I had not thought of this before. I typically think of songs on different albums as being sequels (Reason to Believe/Spare Parts for example), I haven't put much thought to songs on the same album, as I see them existing in a particular moment in time, even when they contradict one another. However, if you see them that way, it means you're a thoughtful listener and a great fan of this music, and that is certainly one of Bruce's goals, I think. Thanks for the interpretation, and I (and I hope others) will put it to considerable thought. Eric. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:52:56 -0400 From: David Hoff Subject: Real fans vs. pretenders A longtime lurker surfaces... Caught the show in Boston a few weeks ago. Based on that experience, and other shows, I have come up with the following list of ways you can separate the real Springsteen fans from the pretenders. 1. Real Springsteen fans never, never leave until the very, very last note is played, and the lights come up (and even then wait a few minutes in case of a last minute surprise). How can people leave at the end of the initial set, or the first encore? That night he played at least 45 minutes of encores, and if you didn't stay until the end you missed Peter Wolf coming out to sing "Dirty Water". 2. Real Springsteen fans do not carry on an ongoing conversation during the concert. The two women next to me, who swore they were huge fans, had a running conversation during a good part of the show. This was particularly annoying during the quieter songs, especially "For You" when it was just Bruce on the piano. An offhanded comment here and there is fine, but shut up and listen to the music! 3. Real Springsteen fans do not leave to get refreshments or to go the rest rooms (unless you have a note from your doctor). Missing a note for such frivolities is a sacrilege. 4. Real Springsteen fans understand that "Born in the U.S.A." is a pissed-off, angry song, not a jingoistic, celebratory anthem. To me Springsteen is like a religion, and the same rules for going to church apply to his concerts - no coming and going and no conversation. Springsteen is the preacher and there is no choice but to give him your undivided, intense, full attention - and the result will be a life transforming experience! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 11:46:43 -0700 From: Marvin&Kristy Subject: Sopranos - end credits For the person who asked about the song playing during the closing credits of last week's episode of the Soprano's, not sure of the song title, but I am almost certain that it was Dave Edmunds. Regards, Marvin ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2002 01:59:41 -0500 From: "Ron Cecchini" Subject: Re: ROTTERDAM SHOW - INCIDENTS IN E STREET From: "CS" > Only a few dumb Dutch fans pissed me off at the front (defending > the fence like it was their property and not interested at all in > talking with other fans, they were even very aggressive and barely > knew the words to the songs... What were they doing here? Maybe they felt possessive, given the names Springsteen & Van Zandt... Speaking of which, was there any ad libbing at all - by Bruce or Steve - or any signs in the audience - that made reference to the Bruce-Dutch connection? > But most of the Dutch audience was a treasure, you guys are great > and I will come back to see Brucie in Spring in your country I really need to make use of my Dutch connections and get there ... But first I have to finish my tour of Nordic capitals! ------------------------------ End of LuckyTown Digest V9 #100 ******************************* ********************************************************************* ** LuckyTown WWW URL ** The LuckyTown FAQ, back issues, web-based subscription/unsubscription, and many other things can be found on the LuckyTown WWW Page: http://www.luckytown.org ** LuckyTown mailing list addresses ** You can send email to go into the next LuckyTown Digest to: luckytown@luckytown.org You can send email to go into the next LuckyTown-Ads Digest to: luckytown-ads@luckytown.org Any questions for the list admin should be emailed to: owner-luckytown@luckytown.org To unsubscribe, send email to majordomo@luckytown.org with message body: unsubscribe luckytown-digest To get further information on how to subscribe/unsubscribe/change your subscription address, as well as the other available commands, send email to majordomo@luckytown.org with message body: help ********************************************************************* The contents of this digest are not necessarily approved by the list admin.