From: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org (LuckyTown Digest) To: luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Subject: LuckyTown Digest V9 #108 Reply-To: luckytown@luckytown.org Sender: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Errors-To: owner-luckytown-digest@luckytown.org Precedence: bulk LuckyTown Digest Sunday, November 17 2002 Volume 09 : Number 108 NOTE: Sale/trade posts should be emailed to luckytown-ads, *NOT* to luckytown. That includes tix wanted/tix grovels, post them to luckytown-ads, please. Contents: Lexington (and one comment on Cincy) ["J. Steven Svoboda" ] Clarence Clemons in Asbury 11/29 [NJBOB113@aol.com] Australia rumors ["O'Hearn, Chris" ] Cincinnati Night [kjmarley@mail.iquest.net] "limited" editions...yea, right ["Schock, Dan" ] Behind the pit [stevewayne23 ] PARIS - BRUCE IN WORLD CUP '98 LEGENDARY STADIUM ["Clement Schvartz" ] Re: Freehold [John Deacon ] BARCELONA 17-05-02 ["CS" ] MEET CLARENCE CLEMONS in Asbury [JohnCavana@aol.com] Miami pre-show get-together [Sofia Albizuri ] 2003 Europe shows BADLANDS [AJHOUST@aol.com] Re: Bruce Goes Global [Frank Hankey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 19:49:11 +1000 From: "J. Steven Svoboda" Subject: Lexington (and one comment on Cincy) I upgraded to one of the best seats in the house, near where I sat in Cincinnati but better, second row back just off Roy's corner of the stage. When Bruce was on our side of the walkway he was no more than 12 feet from me because of the layout of Rupp Arena. Very cool. Another solid yet loose show. Great combination. There were tons of empty seats in the house, not even counting the sections of seats at either end of the arena that were draped over with black cloth. Huge sections of the upper levels were vacant and the lower levels weren't even completely filled in. For some reason, they seemed to sell a lot of tickets in the far end of the arena, with entire rows blocked out very close to the stage (such as the row into which I upgraded myself). Again, sorry if I repeat what's been said already with some of these comments. "Streets of Fire" was a nice surprise. Played similarly to how it has been played on past tours yet a very strong performance I thought. On "Sunny Day," at one point Bruce had the mike on the front lip of the stage and sang some words and nothing came out of the mike. So he tossed the mike across the stage like he had just done fifteen seconds earlier with his guitar. No one caught it but they got another mike right out to him. "Two Hearts" was a great delight for me as it's always ahead of the other songs played in that slot in my book. Bruce seemed to have a good time with it. The reprise from the Reunion Tour is still there. Patti was leaning her head over Garry's left shoulder during the last verse while they were both playing. My first "No Surrender" on this tour; very enjoyable. Like "Streets of Fire," not a song I would have expected to like live as much as I did. At one point during "Mary's Place," after asking, "Are you ready for a house party Kentucky style?", Bruce mimes playing the violin and calls for Soozie. "We need some violin." Clarence is introduced as "a man who happens to be an honorary Kentucky colonel" Bruce asks Clarence, "When was that honor bestowed upon you?" then says, "A few years ago." The rest of the intros were done very quickly. Racing in the Streets was wonderful as usual. What a great ensemble piece, with the crescendoing drums and the beautiful piano. Ever the topical guy, before the encores started with Dancing in the Dark, Bruce cued a sound bite of that familiar trumpet flourish they play before the horse races start. During the last verse, three women and one man came down right next to me and waved panties in Bruce's direction but he didn't react even though he was looking our way. Guess he's used to it at this point! Todd Draper tossed the ukelele to Steven on Glory Days. How cool is that? Bruce kept the Kentucky references coming. During Ramrod he sang, "Look over yonder, see the Kentucky lights." Nils was jamming standing over with Roy. At one point Nils played a chord or two on the keyboard to Roy's left then raised his hands to the crowd on my side of the stage in mock triumph. Pretty funny. At the same time, Patti and Soozie were leaning against each other's backs as they played their instruments (tambourine for Soozie). "I believe that these people are over excited and it's time to go home. I believe that it's time to return to the hotel and watch pornographic films. I believe it's quittin time, Steve." I meant to say this about the Cincinnati show: I was surprised by the moment when Bruce asks Steven, "What time is it?" and the music stops and Steve says, "It's Boss time." At the Lexington show Bruce repeats it later in the song by saying, "What I want to know is what time is it?" and gets the same answer. Interesting that he has incorporated the formerly hated nickname in that way. Because of my location and now being forewarned from Cincy I was able to watch all the hijinks after the fake exit on Ramrod. What a blast. Bruce is holding a little flashlight, shining it at the crowd and all around, holding it pointing upward at his face to give him a spooky appearance. Then when he reaches the bottom of the steps leading to Roy's part of the stage, he halts, still pretty much in darkness, and stands there, "arguing" with Clarence and others about whether he should go back on up to the stage. Once they do get back on the stage, Clarence and Bruce are holding the flashlights pointing upward so they both look like something from Halloween. You gotta love all of Bruce's goofy dancing including his chickenwalk. Great show! I think the small crowd took its toll in a way on the energy but Bruce compensated for that fantastically. Re Cincy, I forgot to mention how cool it was for Bruce to do My Hometown solo piano. A real special moment for me. Steven [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 11:02:48 -0500 From: "kyle gilrain" Subject: Comments on The Pit I have never made it up into the pit, but I can say that I really enjoy general admission. It is like a big party and you do get a feeling that you know everyone, even when you may not know anybody. I think that if you are shorter or less flexible about bumping into peole you will not enjoy that view or experience. As for the pit section. I am not exactly sure how it is done, but I know that it places a huge burden on the event staff. The fans are never all happy. Your experience really does depend on the people you are around. That is simply just the risk you take. You cannot possible expect these event staff to weed out those who are drunk and stupid. There are durnk and fun and drunk and stupid..so who decides this? Frankly, I think a system where you have to sit in a line all day and night is stupid. Why not let peple enjoy the friends that they came with, rather than sit in line all day. It bothers me to see references to "psuedo fans" and mocking of younger fans. I have been a fan for a longer period of time than I like to admit. I have cut out of school, work, etc..to attend shows. I hung out at bars (I am lucky enough to live in NJ) where I know he has a habit of showing up at local bars. Many times I miss him or am edged out by younger fans or those who I feel do not know him as well. During the Today show I got there in the early evening and waited overnight. I ran into a women I knew from High School, who did not really like Bruce at that time. She got into Bruce music because of my constantly listening to him. Well she arrived in the very late evening/early morning and ended up inside and VERY close. I was able to make her out clearly in the VHS tape a friend made of the show. I guess I could have been mad....after all, I am a fan for longer and I was way back on the beach and could not see or hear much at all. I was really happy for her and looked her up to try to give her a copy of the tape. In Michigan, we tailgated next to these drunk 20-somethings. Me and a friend flew from NJ, rented a room and a car, all to see Bruce. These boys had never seen Bruce before. When they came out they told us they met this "man in black" and were upgraded to be right up front. They were in awe. I guess we could have been mad since I was never upgraded and we were obviously the bigger fans, but these boys were so happy and we were happy for them. Being from NJ, I hear so many critisisms of how things are done with respect to Bruce. There is a sense that we own him or something. I mean where else can you go to a local bar and have him show up and play with the band on any given weekend. He has done so much for our local communities and very few people really know exactly how much he really does give back. The pitch for local foodbanks is really only the tip of what he does. He does so much for NJ and gives us so many shows. People should be greatful they are able to see him and welcome the younger "psuedo fans" with open arms...for you were a younger fan once too. I remember being in High School and writing a paper on a Bruce concert. I though..wow I am young, but was able to experience this wonderful night. Many of my friends did not even listen to Bruce. My teacher gave me an A and wrote back on the full side of the back of my paper. I saw it and though..oh my god..look at all the red ink I am gonna fail. It was really all about her going to see Bruce at The Stone Pony the year before "Greetings" came out. She wrote "every weekend my friends would drag me to see this man Bruce Springsteen...and the next year he released Greetings." I was in awe and she welcomed me into Bruce fanhood. There will always be those who sit at the show and get annoyed you are standing..and those who are so drunk they do not even know what he is playing..or those who do not know all the songs. It is all a part of the price of admission. There is simply no way to weed people out and yea there are times when I had the thought that people should have to take a Bruce quiz to get in, but then I become more open minded. Cheers, Kyle NJ "tonight all is silent in the world as we take our stand...down in Jungleland" BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN (1975) Jungleland ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2002 10:35:31 EST From: NJBOB113@aol.com Subject: Clarence Clemons in Asbury 11/29 Stone Pony Entertainment is proud to present Clarence Clemons Temple of Soul on Fri., Nov. 29 at the Paramount Theater in Asbury Park, New Jersey. Doors open at 7 p.m. and showtime is at 8:30. Tickets are $50, $40 and $30 at Ticketmaster and The Stone Pony box office. The show will celebrate the release of the new album from Clarence Clemons Temple of Soul, Live In Asbury Park. Recorded at the legendary Stone Pony, Live In Asbury Park features seven of Clarence's original tunes with arrangements which infuse his rock-n-roll music with elements of blues, jazz, Latin and world music. Live in Asbury Park is sure to be the soundtrack for the best party in town. You can order it now online. The Show: Clarence Clemons Temple of Soul The Date: Fri., Nov. 29 at 8:30 p.m. (Doors open at 7) The Place: Paramount Theater, Asbury Park, N.J. Tickets: $50, $40 $30, on sale at Ticketmaster and the Pony box office Visit Clarence Online: clarenceclemons.com [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 02:28:46 -0000 From: "O'Hearn, Chris" Subject: Australia rumors Hi Rumours abound here in the land down under regarding the forth coming Springsteen tour. So far the rumour treadmill has thrown out the following - 1. That a tour announcement is due some time in the next 2 weeks 2. He is only performing in Melbourne, Sydney & Brisbane 3. He is only performing in Melbourne & Sydney 4. That he will be performing out\door shows only and only one in each city. 5. That he will be doing 1 out door show & 1 indoor show in each city. 6. The Sydney venues are either\or (depending on if point 4 or 5 is correct) Homebush (Olympic Stadium), Entertainment Centre and Centennial Park 6. He is not coming at all. I guess we will have to all wait & see. Personally I hope it's indoors. The shows I witnessed in Boston in August '99 were brilliant - I just don't think it will be the same out doors. Having said that - i just hope he comes down for an ice cold beer and a kangaroo steak !! (yes we do eat it and it's tastes great!) Cheers Chris ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 00:45:27 From: kjmarley@mail.iquest.net Subject: Cincinnati Night Greetings from Indianapolis! I'm not quite sure where to begin, as the show Tuesday night in Cincy was a complete blowout. I was at the Detroit and Chicago shows earlier in the Tour but nothing prepared me for what took place at the U.S. Bank Arena. From the moment Bruce walked out on stage with the yellow Tele I knew something special was ahead. In a classy move, Bruce addressed the racial unrest in Cincy and all of America in his usual eloquent fashion, then proceeded to play a powerfully blistering "American Skin". This set the emotional tone for the evening and the best way I can describe it is, they ATTACKED every song. The stakes had seemingly been raised, and Bruce and the Band rose to the occasion. Some personal highlights: **From my seat in Sec. 125/Row O, I could see Bruce and the Band huddled and waiting to go on after the lights went down. Bruce gave Jon a hug right before he made his way up the ramp. The sound was crystal clear from our seats. **"Ties"--I had a feeling this was gonna be played in the 4th slot given the fact that AS opened the show. I love Clarence's solo and Max's fills on this baby. **"Darkness"--I'm convinced this is one of Bruce's favorites to play live. He simply hammered away on his guitar. Searing. **"You're Missing"--What sadness and deep beauty; Danny really shines on this heartbreaker. **"Bus Stop"/"Night"--Damn, what a 1-2 punch!! Great intro to the former and the latter simply ROCKED. **"Worlds Apart"--Mean guitar work from Steve and Bruce. **"She's the One"--What a rocker. And I love this part, "...from the bitterness, YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!" Hit that thing, Max! **"Mary's Place"--Love the call and response of "Are you ready...Yes I'm ready" **"My Hometown"--Beautiful. Worked just right, thematically and what a treat it is to see Bruce play piano. **"Dancing"--What a blast! **"I'm A Rocker"--FUHGEDDABOWDIT!! Bruce and the Band nailed this and it was utter chaos! To the gentleman fron L.A. with the sign: THANK YOU. **"MCOR"--I love this. One of the emotional highpoints of the evening for me. **BIUSA"--Bruce: "I wrote this song 20 years ago about the Vietnam war. Tonight we're gonna play it for peace". For me, there is a sadness about this particular live version. I don't know if it's Bruce's phrasing or simply the weight of the years but it reduced me to tears. "...I'm 30 years burning down the road..." Damn. "LOHAD"--Kills me every time. "Ramrod"--One word: BLOWOUT. Bruce swinging the guitar around his back, sliding on his knees across the front of the stage (twice), asking Steve, "What time is it" and then milking the crowd before Steve responds, "It's Boss time" prior to his solo, he and the Band leaving Roy to hold down the fort while they made their way off stage (what a treat to hear Roy solo), Bruce leading everyone back on stage with a flashlight and then shining the light on his face when he got back to his mic, then asking the crowd, "I got one thing to ask you: what time is it?" and us responding, "IT'S BOSS TIME!" before the last frenzied guitar attack. I think I got it all :-) What a long, glorious end to a brilliant show. **The feeling of complete exhaustion at the end of the night that tells me I did my part. What an amazing show--Kirk ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:00:04 -0500 From: "Schock, Dan" Subject: "limited" editions...yea, right Haven't seen much discussion of this on the Digest, but I wanted to voice my disappointment to Bruce, Jon and the execs at Columbia for "re" releasing the "limited edition" Rising CD. Having just received this email: The original limited edition deluxe package of The Rising has been re-released to US record stores for a limited time only! My response is: what a load of crap! "limited time only"...isn't that what the original intent was of the "limited edition" is in the first place? Hey, it's not the money-grubbing that bugs me....it's the blind disregard for those of us (Bruce's most loyal and longtime fans) who actually believed that by buying the original "limited edition" Rising CD we were (a) getting a collector's item (b) priding ourselves in being at the forefront of the faithful and finally, but not the least (c) showing support for Bruce's new creative work. I've been defending the Bruce-hype for all the flak they've taken for "overselling" the Rising 9/11 theme...but there is no defense for insulting your core fan base. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:09:03 -0800 From: stevewayne23 Subject: Behind the pit Michael, My wife and her brother, both Red Bank, N.J. natives, were behind the pit during the August San Jose show and I would highly recommend it, especially if you have no problem with standing for 3 1/2 hours. We had heard you needed to head towards the rails, so that's what we did. We got in about an hour before scheduled showtime and were maybe 60 feet from the stage. Down there, you're close to the side bathrooms and refreshements, and everyone was very friendly. Like I said, I would highly recommend. Steve Martarano Sacramento, CA Stevewayne23@macnexus.org ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 10:22:57 +0100 (Heure d'hiver Paris Madrid) From: "Clement Schvartz" Subject: PARIS - BRUCE IN WORLD CUP '98 LEGENDARY STADIUM Dear All, Saturday, May 24th 2003 Stade de France, Paris 80,000 seats Tickets go on sale today : http://www.ticketnet.fr http://www.fnac.com The Stadium is close to Paris' city centre, very convenient. Combine both the visit of PARIS & a great, great show !!! Rave on, Clement Nancy, France ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 06:33:45 -0500 From: ABIT2SHORT@aol.com Subject: ANALYZE THIS [Pretend I'm Bruce]: "I compose and perform songs from my heart. Take it or leave it." [Pretend I'm a fan from Cleveland]: CAN'T YOU PEOPLE JUST SIT BACK AND ENJOY THE DAMN MUSIC??? Linda ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 13:14:24 -0500 From: Subject: Rearview seating impressions I'm looking for impressions from those who have attended the current tour and sat behind the stage. I am in the position where I can choose between seats directly behind the stage (23 rows up) or up in the nose bleeds on the side with a frontview. This is going to be my first Bruce concert (I'm catching him at the ACC in Toronto). So which seats do you think are going to be a better "experience"? I prefer to be as close to the stage as possible, but have never sat behind the stage. Thanks, Jason 1 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 12:08:06 +0000 (GMT) From: John Deacon Subject: Re: Freehold > From: Tuomas Lehto > Subject: Re: Freehold > > At least the Crystal Cat release from TGOTJ -tour Freehold Night > includes Freehold ...and i've got this show in SHN format, ripped from the original CC release on my server if anyone's interested. http://albert.star.ucl.ac.uk/ server's up evenings (UK time) during the week, and all weekend. cheers, john ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:03:27 +0100 From: "CS" Subject: BARCELONA 17-05-02 Hola, I'm really interested in getting tickets for Barcelona. What's the best way to get them ? (I have a friend who can be in Barelona on Nov. 29th) Web, phone, line ? Help !!!! Rock on, Clement Nancy, France Tix for Paris : http://www.ticketnet.fr [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 19:37:26 EST From: JohnCavana@aol.com Subject: MEET CLARENCE CLEMONS in Asbury E Street Band saxophonist Clarence Clemons- aka The Big man- will hold a special CD signing of his new album 'Clarence Clemons Temple Of Soul- Live In Asbury Park' at Antic Hay Books and SulliStudios on Friday, November 29. The event, sponsored by the Merchants Guild of Asbury Park, is open to the public and begins at 1 p.m. The bookstore and gallery are located at 605 Mattison Avenue, Third Floor (the former Asbury Park Press building) in Asbury Park. Copies of the new CD will be available for sale and Clemons will greet the public and sign CDs for as long as his schedule permits that day. He will be signing copies of his new CD only. Also at SulliStudios The Rocktography Exhibit with concert photos from Staff Photographer of the Stone Pony, John Cavanaugh has been extended. There will be special photos of photos of Clarence Clemons in Concert on display for this event. The concert was recorded live at the legendary Stone Pony last summer and a concert celebrating the release of the album is scheduled for the Paramount Theatre in Asbury Park that night (Friday, November 29). Doors open at 7:30 p.m. with the concert scheduled to begin at 8:30 p.m. Tickets cost $50, $40 and $30 and are available from Ticketmaster or at the Stone Pony box office at Ocean and Second avenues. People attending the CD signing are also being urged to shop in downtown Asbury Park. The city's downtown is under extensive renovation with many exciting new retail shops, antique stores, art galleries and restaurants opening. The downtown will be decorated for the Holiday season and people are urged to do their seasonal shopping downtown and support Asbury Park merchants, said Don Stine, President of the Merchants Guild of Asbury Park Also, Stan Goldstein and Jean Mikle, authors of 'Rock & Roll Tour of the Jersey Shore,' will also offer a 1.5-hour walking tour of famous musical landmarks in Asbury park beginning at 2:30 p.m. that same day. Anyone wanting to take the tour should meet in the lobby at 605 Mattison Avenue (the same building as Antic Hay Books and SulliStudios). The tour- which will be cancelled if the weather is bad- will cost $5 with a portion of the proceeds going to the Merchants Guild ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:06:17 -0800 (PST) From: Sofia Albizuri Subject: Miami pre-show get-together Greetings all- If anyone either knows of a pre-show party taking place, or would like to get together (it is IMPOSSIBLE to tailgate) before next Saturday's Miami show, please let me know. There is a Hard Rock, as well as some other establisments, at Bayside Marketplace, right next to the American Airlines Arena. I've always had a great time at the pre-show parties I've been to, and would welcome the opportunity to meet fellow Tramps (especially those who may be travelling from NJ for the show, as I am originally from Hudson County) !!! Thanks, Sofi ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 06:25:03 EST From: AJHOUST@aol.com Subject: 2003 Europe shows BADLANDS To answer cbreston............Badlands are a very cool organisation providing excellent packages for Bruce fans.........they have organised trips all over the world and there is a tremendous camararderie amongst the travelling fans..........you will make lots of friends for sure go for it andrew [text/html attachment deleted] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 21:02:37 -0500 From: Frank Hankey Subject: Re: Bruce Goes Global I found a lot of interesting threads in Gabor Palasti's thoughful posting about the viewpoint of Bruce's writing going out into the larger world. I'd been finding that a particularly striking aspect of The Rising myself. I'd just add that I think there is more going on in Worlds Apart and also Paradise, though this may be just my own way of looking at it. Bruce may well have intended it this way, but I wouldn't necessarily limit the song by assuming it's about a soldier having a dalliance (however impassioned) with an Afghan woman. I see it more as a metaphor for the soul of East and West, a yearning in the humanity on both sides of the divide to discover, appreciate, cherish and love each other. Many of us here in America saw the conflict in Afghanistan as one that was not against the Afghan people, but against the totalitarian religionists who had a deathgrip on their society. Certainly after the Taliban was gone, a great many Afthan women appeared to be quite delighted by the turn of events. At the same time, there continues to be a danger that the desire for revenge will overwhelm this yearning for unity. I wept when I first heard "Let the living let us in before the dead tear us apart." And we're clearly not out of the woods yet. Paradise is also a rather ambitious song. Sure, maybe suicide bombers are just at the end of their rope. So are lots of people in the world. But they don't strap explosives to themselves and kill lots of civilians in a marketplace. And I'm certainly don't see that this has furthered the Palestinian cause one whit. But this is beside the point. The refrain I keep hearing among the more radicalized of the Islamists is this idea that they will go to Paradise if they make this great sacrifice for their religion and their people. The suicide hijackers were hoping to be greeted in heaven by those 70 black-eyed virgins. Apparently this is all they'd talk about. There is a religious ecstasy that seems to be part of the equation. I think Bruce's point, especially considering the last two verses, is more that life is here. It's a precious gift. We don't know what's there. And what the suicide bomers and hijackers are doing is horribly misguided. But he lets us walk in the shoes of the folks in this song and even put a foot on the other side. This song still haunts me and gives me chills. I see this as another chapter in the Ghost of TJ, particularly the live version of The Border. Bruce keeps saying that he's searching for a connection. He's broadening his perspective. And that's good. 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